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Saturn is dead isn't it? :D great idea tho, cept add this, Chevy, and make it a Cobalt comeback.....2 models, none of this bullshit 20 different models and 100 different options to choose from......SO MUCH FAIL GM.........2 models, Top end fully loaded, LSD, track suspension, brakes, power, ect ect ect, and a bottom model with less power, no track suspension or brakes or extra power BUT build both on the same platform so if the lower model wanted to upgrade with parts from the better model then they can. But ONLY 2 MODELS........GM still keeps spreading themselves thin thinking they can make more money selling the same fucking vehicles with the same fucking parts but a different badge/name...........MY GAWD GM TAKE YOUR HEADS OUTTA EACH OTHERS ASSES AND SMELL THE FUCKING ROSES LOL.

you should take some of your own advice. the made a bunch of money selling the base cobalts ar-tard
 

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no problem. notice i gave it a little drop? that should be your next mod imo

I already have sportlines, just really thin tires, once i have the right rubbers it will look even better.
 

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you should take some of your own advice. the made a bunch of money selling the base cobalts ar-tard

exactly, sell a BASE model, and an SS model, not a BASE plus a few things, another engine badged as some type of "SS" model, ect.......u know what i mean. Sell 1 base model, not 3(G5, ION, Cobalt) make one car really good instead of trying to "trick" ppl into buying the same fucking car but slightly different looks........and don't have 5 different configurations for it(LS, LT, LTZ, SS, Sport)
 

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exactly, sell a BASE model, and an SS model, not a BASE plus a few things, another engine badged as some type of "SS" model, ect.......u know what i mean. Sell 1 base model, not 3(G5, ION, Cobalt) make one car really good instead of trying to "trick" ppl into buying the same fucking car but slightly different looks........and don't have 5 different configurations for it(LS, LT, LTZ, SS, Sport)

no thats an awful idea....I would never buy a true base model.

Theres a reason why there are many models, thats so many different people can afford them...Your on a roll today of awful ideas lol.
 
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exactly, sell a BASE model, and an SS model, not a BASE plus a few things, another engine badged as some type of "SS" model, ect.......u know what i mean. Sell 1 base model, not 3(G5, ION, Cobalt) make one car really good instead of trying to "trick" ppl into buying the same fucking car but slightly different looks........and don't have 5 different configurations for it(LS, LT, LTZ, SS, Sport)

thinking like that is just plain old stupidity.

that's like saying why did they bother making the 05-07 balt's supercharged? they should of just stuck a turbo on it instead in the first place and it would of made more power. duh

why did they change the neon srt-4 from supercharged to turbo charged? well duh b/c they wanted to make more power. lol

ps. if you didn't already know the srt-4 was supercharged then they finally decided to change it to a turbo to get more power out of the car. also dodge lost money when they sold srt-4's at such a low price. they were hoping to make it back with the aftermarket upgrades from mopar.

just a couple things you might not have known already...
 

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thinking like that is just plain old stupidity.

that's like saying why did they bother making the 05-07 balt's supercharged? they should of just stuck a turbo on it instead in the first place and it would of made more power. duh

why did they change the neon srt-4 from supercharged to turbo charged? well duh b/c they wanted to make more power. lol

ps. if you didn't already know the srt-4 was supercharged then they finally decided to change it to a turbo to get more power out of the car. also dodge lost money when they sold srt-4's at such a low price. they were hoping to make it back with the aftermarket upgrades from mopar.

just a couple things you might not have known already...

I had no idea about that, kinda cool actually.
 

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I had no idea about that, kinda cool actually.

yep, it was supercharged and they wanted to try to make the cheapest fastest production car in the world so they decided to forget about the supercharged idea and slapped a turbo on the car. most people know if you run a supercharger your belt driven so you loose about 30% of the power. the turbo is where it is at if you want all out power. also on such a small motor. at the end of the day the nsrt4 was 2.4 liter as where us supercharged cobalts only have a 2.0.


i think i am going to list my car up for sale and see if anyone wants it. it has been over 3 years now and would like to move onto a different car. i also hate racking up all the damn highway miles for no reason on a performance car that i drive around like bitch.
 

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Nooooo :( its good on gas :D lol Found your dragtime.com entry btw

---------- Post added at 11:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:51 AM ----------

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Cobalt-Timeslip-18191.html

yeah, that's it's old setup. i haven't been back to the track in a long time. i never launch the car at the track ether. just bug out then go. car should be a low to mid 12 for sure however if i took it back i'd just run a high 12.

also that was before i knew how to tune. i had 40% boost limit in 1st and also 2nd
 

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to me that Cruze looks ALOT like a scion TC...

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thinking like that is just plain old stupidity.

that's like saying why did they bother making the 05-07 balt's supercharged? they should of just stuck a turbo on it instead in the first place and it would of made more power. duh

why did they change the neon srt-4 from supercharged to turbo charged? well duh b/c they wanted to make more power. lol

ps. if you didn't already know the srt-4 was supercharged then they finally decided to change it to a turbo to get more power out of the car. also dodge lost money when they sold srt-4's at such a low price. they were hoping to make it back with the aftermarket upgrades from mopar.

just a couple things you might not have known already...

Then we agree to disagree but I think u misunderstand me...........When I say base model i don't mean no power windows no power steering no power locks ect ect, i mean the opposite, i mean to make the LTZ model GM's "Base" model, full range of options that are STANDARD but minimal power/braking/suspension to cut down on price. That 1.4L DI sounds like a good motor, make that the "base" motor with all power options, ESC/ABS/TC, a nice interior with CD/MP3/USB. GM is headed towards this goal with the Cruze but they still have a few extra's that need to NOT be options and at least 1 version that needs to be cut completely. I fully understand the whole price range bullshit but that's all it is, bullshit, a silly ploy to bring more ppl to GM's doorstep buying their vehicles. A good company isn't going to focus on selling as many units as possible, they should be focused on selling a GOOD unit that ppl will keep driving for many many years and when they sell it they are so happy it lasted that long and was such a good car to them that they WANT to buy another GM without looking at the competition as much. Otherwise the customer will hate their POS cobalt at the end and WANT to buy ANYTHING BUT GM.......how is that helping GM? All because they think making 5 models is helping them............
 

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Then we agree to disagree but I think u misunderstand me...........When I say base model i don't mean no power windows no power steering no power locks ect ect, i mean the opposite, i mean to make the LTZ model GM's "Base" model, full range of options that are STANDARD but minimal power/braking/suspension to cut down on price. That 1.4L DI sounds like a good motor, make that the "base" motor with all power options, ESC/ABS/TC, a nice interior with CD/MP3/USB. GM is headed towards this goal with the Cruze but they still have a few extra's that need to NOT be options and at least 1 version that needs to be cut completely. I fully understand the whole price range bullshit but that's all it is, bullshit, a silly ploy to bring more ppl to GM's doorstep buying their vehicles. A good company isn't going to focus on selling as many units as possible, they should be focused on selling a GOOD unit that ppl will keep driving for many many years and when they sell it they are so happy it lasted that long and was such a good car to them that they WANT to buy another GM without looking at the competition as much. Otherwise the customer will hate their POS cobalt at the end and WANT to buy ANYTHING BUT GM.......how is that helping GM? All because they think making 5 models is helping them............

Your idea is still fail man, The reason why there are base models with nothing in them is so they can sell the car for cheap, load it with more options and the poorer population cant afford it....And your claim to put less power for cost is just thinking backwards...
 

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they did okay if 911 never happened GM would have had a better time selling the delta line
 

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Your idea is still fail man, The reason why there are base models with nothing in them is so they can sell the car for cheap, load it with more options and the poorer population cant afford it....And your claim to put less power for cost is just thinking backwards...

The Cobalt wasn't GM's base model tho, that end of things were already taken care of by other models they had which were not that bad for a base model. The cruze won't be GM's base model either so why make so many various models that do the same thing? 3 engines? that's retarded. They need 2 engines, the 1.4L DI and the LNF, that's it, the rest are a last ditch effort to grab a few more customers that won't be happy and end up never buying GM again. GM has too much focus on "Net Sales" instead of customer loyalty and building a GOOD vehicle. Why are Subaru customers so loyal? Because their HAPPY!!!!! People today will PAY to be HAPPY, how else does BMW, Lexus, Benz, ect ect ect, all make such good vehicles? Because their customers are loyal and the companies know those customers will come back and likely bring a friend or family member to them because their so happy. GM does not understand customer loyalty as well as they should for the market they are trying to compete in.

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they did okay if 911 never happened GM would have had a better time selling the delta line

not a chance, the delta line was never going to be popular, just another grab at money selling mass amounts of crap vehicles, say for the LNF ones. GM shat on the ss/sc with crap interior(ss/tc too) and poor supporting parts for those who wanted all out performance. They only partially made up for it with the ss/tc and even then just barely. GM has a long ways to go if they want to compete with the best of the best that is out there in more than just a Corvette.......
 

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i give you that GM went plain retarded on the interior save the seats the ss models are not all that much nicer than the base models
 

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Your idea is still fail man, The reason why there are base models with nothing in them is so they can sell the car for cheap, load it with more options and the poorer population cant afford it....And your claim to put less power for cost is just thinking backwards...

agree'd.

in the long run whatever you (not you tom) think will not change anything. they need to sell base versions of the car so they can sell. otherwise people can't afford them. some people wish they could buy a 335i but can't afford it so they buy the 328i. it's a really basic concept to understand. it's like i own a supercharged cobalt right now and didn't know in 2008 the turbo cobalt would come out but now that it has i should sell my car ASAP to buy the turbo cobalt because it is better in every aspect. just doesn't make sense do you understand where i am coming from???

hell it's like saying why buy the cobalt when you can buy a used c5 z06 instead???

idk in the long run it's too many options now a days. too many cars. too many colors. it's nice but all this is just giving me a headache. i gotta wake up in the morning and i am already hung over. i am out. see you guys in the morning.
 

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idk in the long run it's too many options now a days. too many cars. too many colors. it's nice but all this is just giving me a headache.

^^^Made my point for me right there

in the long run whatever you (not you tom) think will not change anything. they need to sell base versions of the car so they can sell. otherwise people can't afford them. some people wish they could buy a 335i but can't afford it so they buy the 328i. it's a really basic concept to understand. it's like i own a supercharged cobalt right now and didn't know in 2008 the turbo cobalt would come out but now that it has i should sell my car ASAP to buy the turbo cobalt because it is better in every aspect. just doesn't make sense do you understand where i am coming from???

hell it's like saying why buy the cobalt when you can buy a used c5 z06 instead???

I almost ended up with the ss/sc myself but it would have still been at half the cost of the SS/TC, there was no point in a brand new ss/sc when a used one with low km still have warranty and even a few upgrades i wanted. U obviously went brand new with your ss/sc, it's the same situation I am in now, I know there is better cars than my ss/tc and i could trade in my ss/tc and get something better but that's not the point, I was talking about GM making so many different models and spreading themselves so thin. The cobalt was not GM's base model so why make it so fucking cheep? They had their "cheep" car already with the Aveo.

The problem with a system like what GM has been using is that the cars are POS and break down and end up in junk yards. For a company image that is horrific, you want your cars on the road forever so that ppl who have money buy new and ppl who don't buy used but still get a GOOD PRODUCT, thus making a very strong company image, like Honda and Toyota, even Nissan, Hyundai, Kia. People buying used mostly buy imports because they are proven more reliable, GM's are bought brand new for dirt cheep and don't last....that is once again, a HORRIFIC company image to have, they have taken the necessary steps to change that with recent changes but they still keep holding on for dear life to their "SELL SELL SELL" idea that put them in the hole their in today........when they let go, we will get a 2dr and 4dr AWD LNF, they will have the cruze as their base model, then malibu, then impala, performance will be maybe a Cobalt comback or just a new name altogether, then camaro, vette. GM has spread so thin that if they don't consider cutting more of the "fat" they WILL die. The Cruze replaces the Cobalt but it should also be taking the place of GM's BASE model, that would make a BOLD statement that GM has a commitment to quality and being the BEST. Sadly GM is going to throw away this opportunity and make that POS spark or w/e they end up doing. Even Toyota sunk to a new low with the yaris, for years their base model was the corolla and they should have left it that way, they cheeped out, so did Honda, Nissan........:( everyone decided to cheep out and quit making quality that ppl would later buy used just to make some quick cash off POS cars...........shame on just about EVERY automaker......VW/Audi saved face :) happy for them there, BMW made a smart move with the 128/135, they have needed something below the 3 series for years. BMW could even make a 4dr 1 series for a little cheeper than the 128 and still make a decent amount of money off it. Benz was smart about their new base model tho it should have been a straight up sedan not the POS body style they used and it needed to be a little cheeper pricewise. Alright I'm gunna stop here, i've gone far enough and if your still not on my side so be it, we agree to disagree.
 
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