My Hub Conversion.

[ls1fbody]

The brakes do not need to be converted, but i chose to go that route because, well, better brakes can never be overlooked.

SPECIAL THANKS TO JOHN AT POWELL MOTORSPORTS, AND BRAD(MAVEN) FOR HIS AWESOME GENUINE GM PARTS. NOT TO MENTION BOTH FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING SUPPORT OF MY RELATIVE IGNORANCE

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Ok, i got sick and tired of the cruddy selection of attractive wheels for our factory 5x110. Actually, i didn't find ANY that I liked, so i decided to swap to 5x114.3, which is one of the most common 5 lug hub patterns. I remembered hearing someplace that the Grand Am Time Attack Cobalts were all running a 5x114.3 Grand Am hub conversion. I got into contact with the Powell Motorsports crew that was responsible for building the Time Attack cars for GMPerformanceDivision back in 05. We discussed the multiple angles with which we could approach this situation, and ended up settling on Grand Am hubs. These hubs, along with an LNF Brembo front brake conversion, and LNF knuckles and axles (which are considerably stronger that the production LSJ versions) make up the front hub conversion. The rear consists of a modified rear TWB, with an adjustable chromoly sway bar, transplanted from the Time Attack car, and revised end plates for the rear hubs.

Also included in this build are the OTTPerfomance CnC'd "Rotato Potato" mounts as i like to call them and OTTPerformance steering rack shims.

Also, there will be stainless steel braided brake lines all around (Also from OTT)

PARTS LIST:
Time attack Twisting Beam
Rear Caliper plate
front wheel bearings 5x114.3
rear wheel bearings 5x114.3
Rear caliper set used with pads and handbrake mechanism
Rotated Motor mounts

Shipped as a complete axle with bearings, brake hoses, calipers, pads, bolt in.

Front Knuckles TC
Front Axles TC
Brembo calipers 4 piston
Brembo rotors Solid, new
Steering Rack Spacers
SS/SC Rear Calipers Remanufactured

 

[Tom]

nice! so whats the damage$?

 

[ls1fbody]

About 4g's after shipping.

Wheels sold separately

 

[Tom]

thats half the blue book of my car LOL


thank god the 4 bolt has a good selection

 

[dman090]

thats half the blue book of my car LOL


thank god the 4 bolt has a good selection

thank god hondas had the 4x100 lug pattern or we would have shit for choices lol

 

[Tom]

thank god hondas had the 4x100 lug pattern or we would have shit for choices lol

yea no joke! also mini coopers i believe...

 

[ls1fbody]

4x100 and 5x114.3 are the most common 4 and 5 lug patterns out there. Nearly every car uses one of those two.

 

[Tom]

is this not more practical?....http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=204149

 

[ls1fbody]

sure it would be. But it puts a lot of stress on the wheel bearings, and requires you to run a 50+ offset. good luck finding wheels haha

 

[Tom]

sure it would be. But it puts a lot of stress on the wheel bearings,

yea i saw that

 

[YelloEye]

Ok so new Q, what would it cost just to be able to mount 5x114.3? Meaning I already have a TC, I just want a better wheel selection. I know I'd need wheel bearings and new disks for the brakes, but what else?

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Also, am I the only one that cant get your links to work?

 

[Tom]

im getting a 404 error on the links too

 

[YelloEye]

Did you just get your discs re-drilled for 5x114.3?

 

[ff_drift_lol]

or just make a template and get to work on the drill press

 

[YelloEye]

Here's what I believe are the correct links:

Rotated trans mounts
Steering Rack Spacers
Brake lines

 

[ff_drift_lol]

those rotated mounts are the shit. i don't even need traction bars now.

 

[YelloEye]

or just make a template and get to work on the drill press

Might have access to a drill press....just need to make sure thats the only parts necessary to make the swap. If thats all I need I'll get it done asap and sell my stock TC wheels.....thats a sad thought.

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those rotated mounts are the shit. i don't even need traction bars now.

Yeah, I'm planning on picking up a set of the stg 2, rack spacers, and pedders.

 

[ff_drift_lol]

well, he's saying they are selling an entire rear that's converted for you. it's not a matter of swapping hubs, they actually modified the rear quite a bit to get different hubs on the rear. it's not direct bolt on by any means. you already have brembos which is sick too.

i got the stage 2 ottp and they are purrrdy. no wheep hop at all, smooth launches smooth shifts. just tits.

 

[YelloEye]

well, he's saying they are selling an entire rear that's converted for you. it's not a matter of swapping hubs, they actually modified the rear quite a bit to get different hubs on the rear. it's not direct bolt on by any means. you already have brembos which is sick too.

i got the stage 2 ottp and they are purrrdy. no wheep hop at all, smooth launches smooth shifts. just tits.

I had the poly inserts from TTR on my LT and yeah, total tits.

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Off topic, how are those nitto invos in weather? I've owned NeoGens and love em, just looking at Invos to see if there compareable.

 

[ls1fbody]

Sorry guys the links are from OTT's old website. And like Mike said, it's not just a matter of bolting on new hubs. Also, Powell doesn't just slap these axles together, they're a very custom project. The rear TWB cost me $1300 alone. No brakes, nothing.

So, it's not a light project.