sway bars

[BlackCobalt707]

how much does eibach drop the car? i got ksport springs that drop the fromt 2" and the rear 2.5" and i have a TTR rear sway bar that is soon to be installed

 

[ff_drift_lol]

well, you would have been better off replacing the endlinks with something stronger than stock. Why you would think it handles better without the bar is beyond me...

And don't bring up the Time Attack car, i know it didn't have a front sway. But i understand why.

explain plz

 

[ls1fbody]

explain plz

They just increased spring rates to counter body roll. I've had it explained to me, but i forget exactly why.

 

[Tom]

Eibach front sway bar will turn your car into an understeer nightmare. FE5 either 24mm(SS/SC) or 25mm(SS/TC) up front, OTTP Hardcore or street in the rear depending on intended use. Great balance, Time Attack tested and approved.

best answer ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[ls1fbody]

best answer ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thank you! finally someone gets it...

 

[Tom]

Thank you! finally someone gets it...

no problem!
I have done the research myself, and came to that exact conclusion.

Really you dont even need to touch the front...

 

[ls1fbody]

not on the FE5 cars.

 

[Tom]

not on the FE5 cars.

even the base model...you wont notice that much of a difference with the front changed out, not to mention the pain in the ass installation that will come with it...

 

[Cobalt Tom]

even the base model...you wont notice that much of a difference with the front changed out, not to mention the pain in the ass installation that will come with it...

the install wasnt really too bad actually...and i will say that i noticed a big diff once switched to the ss/tc fe5

 

[ls1fbody]

Haha, 3mm is a huge difference to the front swaybar. On a solid bar, most of the torsional resistance occurs in the outer portions of the bar. The material in the center of the bar does less and less the closer to center it is.

It's easy to understand, like torque. More leverage as you get further from the fulcrum or pivot point.

 

[Cobalt Tom]

Haha, 3mm is a huge difference to the front swaybar. On a solid bar, most of the torsional resistance occurs in the outer portions of the bar. The material in the center of the bar does less and less the closer to center it is.

It's easy to understand, like torque. More leverage as you get further from the fulcrum or pivot point.

makes sense to me

annnnnd, because its on the outside, increasing 3mm there is alot more noticable then going say....5mm-8mm as your adding MORE meat for that 3mm

not sure if that made sense

 

[ls1fbody]

Well, you're adding it where it counts, but i believe you're trying to say the increase in stiffness relative to the increase in diameter is directly related and exponential.

 

[Tom]

OOOO no i did not mean there will be no difference, I just think replacing the rear is more then enough for a daily

 

[ls1fbody]

Lol, most SS's are daily's as well. Adding a rear sway bar will do more to effect your DD than the front would.

 

[Cobalt Tom]

Well, you're adding it where it counts, but i believe you're trying to say the increase in stiffness relative to the increase in diameter is directly related and exponential.

yes, that...what you said

 

[Tom]

Lol, most SS's are daily's as well. Adding a rear sway bar will do more to effect your DD than the front would.

i know,but thats not my point lol....My point of the 2, i would just do the rear...why? easier install and its more noticeable then doing the front....

 

[camopaint0707]

I have suspension techniques

 

[ls1fbody]

those are only an upgrade for the FE1 cars, for the FE3 and FE5, they're a downgrade. Not knocking your setup, just saying that for an FE5 car, there would be no reason to look there.

 

[camopaint0707]

really :-( oh well