Need Help With Install.

[Curtis]

Hey Guys I recently just bought alpine SPS 6.5 for the front and I bought alpine SPS 6X9 for the back. I also bought a sony xpload 4channel amp that will power the speakers.

I have an alpine head unit installed and an alpine amp and sub. SO I just want better & louder sounding speakers than the stock speakers. Just not totally sure how to do it.

I already have a remote line and aux cable running to my head unit for my sub. so the romote turn on my head unit is already been used. So how do I get the other amp to turn on.

I am not sure how am I suppose to get the speaker wire to the doors?

Also what gauge wire would you use for the wiring kit and speaker wire. The sony xpload is like 300watts RMS, 700watts peak. I was thinking 8 gauge. does that sound good?

 

[Aikidoshadow]

Wire the second amp into the head units remote line with the other one. Its only a dedicated power and ground that is important to the amplifiers.
Use the factory wiring for the component speakers in doors and rear run the head units lines to the input of the second amp and connect the factory wiring to the output.

 

[Curtis]

How do i get into the stock wiring? Can this ever be reversed if I sell the car?
is there a how to somewhere of how to get into the stock wiring?

 

[Aikidoshadow]

How did you install the head unit to the stock speakers to begin with?
You would have to cut the wiring from the harness (with a service loop) to perform it the way I proposed. Otherwise enjoy taking the dash and doors apart to run your new wiring.

 

[Curtis]

I used a the PAC audio interface and a harness. I would rather not cut through stock wiring if I can. So how would I get into the doors if I wanna run new wire?

 

[cobalt123]

into the doors?

they have two tabs on the side like the plastic part under the hood that just you pull out. then a screw behind the inside door handle behind a flat peice of plastic. then two more screws in the arm rest/window switchs also under a peice of plastic then just push it up. (Assuming power locks and windows)

 

[Curtis]

I think You are talking about taking apart the door panel. I want to run speaker wires from the back of the car from an amplifier to each car door to power after market speakers. I want to know how to run wire from inside the car to inside the door.

 

[cobalt123]

ahh

 

[dman090]

I think You are talking about taking apart the door panel. I want to run speaker wires from the back of the car from an amplifier to each car door to power after market speakers. I want to know how to run wire from inside the car to inside the door.

go thru the trun under the carpet, run the wires under the back panels and then continue on under the kick panels, feed them thru that hose on the door and your done lol

 

[Aikidoshadow]

go thru the trun under the carpet, run the wires under the back panels and then continue on under the kick panels, feed them thru that hose on the door and your done lol

This and then take the doors apart to rewire the speakers.
I'm not that much of an audiophile to bother running amps for my components. lol

Although if you start running enough power draw you might consider the dual alternator mod that "emperorJJ" iirc had on his SS.

 

[Curtis]

Where is the opening for the hose in the cabin? do you have to take appart alot of pannels to get 2 it

 

[dman090]

i think you have to pull off the kick panels

 

[newfiedan]

pull the kick panels, do not use factory wiring for amplified speakers its not heavy enough you are going to want 14-16 gauge wiring for that, for amped speakers I use 14 gauge. Remove the rubber where it meets the body at the front doors then remove the plastic molex from there, there is lots of room to stick speaker wiring through there safely so that it will last the life of the vehicle. You run the wiring along the door sills, remove the kick panel and the plastic that covers the door sill area run the wiring tucked down into the capret as far as you can get it that way its safe. With the plastic removed from the door you will see where to stick the wiring. As for the rears you need to remove the cover for it and then simply drop the wiring and zip tie to to the factory speaker wires to protect them. You can split the rca's for the sub with Y adapters or opt to run them from the deck, if I were you I would do it from the deck since you are going 4 channel. Run all that wiring down the passenger side and like the other guys said you can use the remote wire to turn on both amps, its a very small draw on the remote wire to power both amps so you should be good. Here is a good link to give you an idea of how to do it.
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~78731~PN~1

 

[dman090]

you kno.. im just gonna write a how to on this today, ill be doing this today anyways

 

[Curtis]

Thanks that would be very helpfull. And muchly appreciated

 

[dman090]

what alpine unit you got?

 

[Curtis]

Alpine CDA 105.

I have been talking to people and they say the total opposite from you guys are telling me. They say I should use like 18 guage wirring and tap into the existing factory wire either at the molex cable or the stock wiring at the head unit. They say running the wire through the doors is really hard. They say it is very hard. ya that how to would help alot. So what gauge wire should I use for the power and ground. and you say I should use 14-16 guage wiring. They said that feeding it through there would not be good at all because it would get caught and snag in the door jam.

Any more info would be helpfull!!

Thanks

 

[dman090]

well i havent decided on how im gonna get my wire thru the molex yet. but i say run 16 gauge. and as far as the power wire goes, whats the specs on your amp? and whats your RMS on your speakers?

 

[Curtis]

80Watts RMS for speakers. Alpine Type S 6.5 and 6X9
70watts RMS per channel on sony xpload amp. 700watts max or something like that.

 

[dman090]

well i just looked up your speakers, it adds up to be 370 watts total power you will need, then you need head room.. so your amp needs to be around the 400-450 watts range

---------- Post added at 11:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:13 PM ----------

80Watts RMS for speakers. Alpine Type S 6.5 and 6X9
70watts RMS per channel on sony xpload amp. 700watts max or something like that.

well you need to read a little more about your amp man, the amp will push more or less per channel depending on the size power wire you get