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so it made your car set lower??? thats cool lol, how hard is it to change out hte front sway bar?
 

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so it made your car set lower??? thats cool lol, how hard is it to change out hte front sway bar?
well, i have had the entire subframe off one of these cars before and have a pretty good selection of tools and such, and it was probly a 4.5/10 difficulty on my scale

you have to take your endlinks off, drop the subframe as far as it will go, remove some plastic to do so, remove both tranny mounts from the subframe, then you have to get in and get the bolts off the mounts and then contort it out...reverse steps to get back in. It wasnt impossible, but def not on the easy list. and if you dont have a good jack and jack stands and a nice socket set, it will be pretty hard.

if this is your first big project on the car, i would be VERY careful cause if somethign isnt put back in right then you will have problems once you get out on the road...if you have worked with alot of the car before, then you should be good to go, you just need to know its going to be a couple hour long project haha
 

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what you think about using the endlinks without the sway bar? and any insite on the PN's for the setup?
 
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what you think about using the endlinks without the sway bar? and any insite on the PN's for the setup?

As in just buying the SS/SC endlinks and using them on your stock set up? I dont think you would notice much of a difference honestly.
 

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As in just buying the SS/SC endlinks and using them on your stock set up? I dont think you would notice much of a difference honestly.

i have an ss/tc suspension setup on my ion.. and need new endlinks.. so for the price of the stock ss/tc endlinks (22 bux a peice) it'd be better and being i have the rest of the setup it would complete everything

i just payed 70 bux for a set of endlinks but the stock units are no maintenance and cheaper the ss/tc setup is $58.81 shipped instead of 70 shipped..
 

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i have an ss/tc suspension setup on my ion.. and need new endlinks.. so for the price of the stock ss/tc endlinks (22 bux a peice) it'd be better and being i have the rest of the setup it would complete everything

i just payed 70 bux for a set of endlinks but the stock units are no maintenance and cheaper the ss/tc setup is $58.81 shipped instead of 70 shipped..

If that set you bought for $70 is adjustable I'd just stick with those. It will likely give you the same if not better feel.
 

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If that set you bought for $70 is adjustable I'd just stick with those. It will likely give you the same if not better feel.

no they're not.. and a sealed end like stock endlinks will hold up better/ require less maintenance which is what i'm going for for the time being until i can get a job and buy powergrind's
 

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no they're not.. and a sealed end like stock endlinks will hold up better/ require less maintenance which is what i'm going for for the time being until i can get a job and buy powergrind's

Well then I'd say buy em if that's what your current needs are, although I severely dislike the stock FE1 endlinks dues to the rubber bushing. Perhaps the FE5 endlinks are a different configuration.

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Where did you find the FE5 endlinks at? I don't see them listed at CED.

Never mind, found em on GMpartsDirect.com for 22.77 ea
 
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Well then I'd say buy em if that's what your current needs are, although I severely dislike the stock FE1 endlinks dues to the rubber bushing. Perhaps the FE5 endlinks are a different configuration.

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Where did you find the FE5 endlinks at? I don't see them listed at CED.

Never mind, found em on GMpartsDirect.com for 22.77 ea

the problem is alot of aftermarket companies use poly bushings or rubber bushings but at least the stock links are partially covered to keep shit out of the joint.. aftermarket ones usually aren't so it causes them to need to be greased and they brake down more often

i'd think the fe5's are good upgrades.. hell going from my fe2 shocks/struts the ss/tc setup was a huge difference so for 58 it's worth a shot hell aftermarket ones usually only last for like 1 or 2 years before getting clunky.. my stock fe2 links have lasted for just over 3 years lol .. so if the ss/tc ones last that long i'll be happy lol
 

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the problem is alot of aftermarket companies use poly bushings or rubber bushings but at least the stock links are partially covered to keep shit out of the joint.. aftermarket ones usually aren't so it causes them to need to be greased and they brake down more often

i'd think the fe5's are good upgrades.. hell going from my fe2 shocks/struts the ss/tc setup was a huge difference so for 58 it's worth a shot hell aftermarket ones usually only last for like 1 or 2 years before getting clunky.. my stock fe2 links have lasted for just over 3 years lol .. so if the ss/tc ones last that long i'll be happy lol

This is true.

I would think the FE5s would last quite a while.

FE2??? Guessing you're driving a pre 2005 ion?
 

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This is true.

I would think the FE5s would last quite a while.

FE2??? Guessing you're driving a pre 2005 ion?

nope fe2 came on the sport appearance package 2.4 ions so they're 06+ redline suspension is fe3

where as cobalt is fe1 for base.. fe3 for ss/na (maybe) and fe5 for ss/sc and ss/tc
 

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ss/tc endlinks and ss.tc sway bar are different designs on the end from the stockers of other models and would not work well unless together i would think
 

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ss/tc endlinks and ss.tc sway bar are different designs on the end from the stockers of other models and would not work well unless together i would think

damn there would be no way to make them work with the stock bar?

booerns that really fucks things up ... maybe i'll buy a set of adjsutable links then instead
 

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i posted pics of the 2.2 stockers endlinks and bars...totally diff end shape to the bar and shorter links, i fyou put the links on the stock bar it would pull it to places that may damage other things...
 

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i posted pics of the 2.2 stockers endlinks and bars...totally diff end shape to the bar and shorter links, i fyou put the links on the stock bar it would pull it to places that may damage other things...

damn .. that would've been nice to have sealed endlinks that would actually last worth a damn
 

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i posted pics of the 2.2 stockers endlinks and bars...totally diff end shape to the bar and shorter links, i fyou put the links on the stock bar it would pull it to places that may damage other things...

So wait....you used FE1 links with your FE5 bar?

Host pix here! lol

Oh and w00t 300 posts :D :party33:
 

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So wait....you used FE1 links with your FE5 bar?

Host pix here! lol

Oh and w00t 300 posts :D :party33:
no, i used ss/tc struts and shocks for the whole thing

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here steve


whole thing from the front. new in back old in front, long endlinks old, short new
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endlinks
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comparison of the two sway bars ends. i think you can tell which is which by the size :lol:
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another angle of the whole setup
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