The E85 Craze...

[sloancallaway]

On RLF there is a huge E85 Craze Going on and one of the more interesting things I came across was this thread and I thought I would share it with you guys. Is anyone else either running on E85 or considering. It isnt available up here yet however it looks promising from this

Thanks to tennpenn83 and wickedss for doing this

Tennpenn83 vs. WickedSS2005 (TVS vs. E85 M62)

*Note - This is not a war story. This is a genuine comparison between E85 and 93 pump gas.*

During the Columbus, OH meet this past weekend, Tom and I took a quick trip to Mexico to 'compare' the differences between E85 and 93 octane pump gas.

Pertinent mods related to this comparison :

WickedSS2005

2005 Cobalt SS/SC
M62
2.6" pulley
heat exchanger with "Stu" mod
full 3" header/dp/exhaust
E85

Tennpenn83

2006 ION Redline
TVS
3.1" pulley
dual-pass/opt B/heat exchanger
completely stock exhaust with 2.5" cat-less downpipe (I am not retarded, please don't try to tell me I need exhaust mods)
93 Octane pump gas (no meth/E85/etc..)

From a 40 roll, to 120ish, we were DEAD EVEN. The only time anybody gained anything was when we shifted. (The Redlines come with 17" wheels and the Cobalts 18". I shifted first and he gained a fender, then when he shifted a second later, I gained the fender back to be nose-to-nose again.)

Granted, I have a lot more room to work with compared to the pretty-much-maxxed-out M62 setup. I can get exhaust mods, E85, and a smaller pulley and probably walk away from him fairly easily. He really can't do much more to a M62 setup without breaking into the motor for a Port/Polish on the head, valvesprings, etc... but then again, I could always do that too...

Both of us should be right around 290-ish whp. As EBristol (aka GMRedline) stated in his thread, the E85 has some amazing potential. If I had some E85 stations within 45 miles of me, that's all I'd be running. Then Tom would only be able to see my tail lights

This is only a testament to the explosive power of E85. Props to Tom for the best comparison I've made in a long while.

If you would like to read the discussion here is the site
http://www.redlineforums.com/forums...15-tennpenn83-vs-wickedss2005-tvs-vs-e85.html

 

[ionit3]

psh e85 is teh gays

 

[Fluffy]

e85 ftw...... wish florida had stations that offered it

 

[dunit121]

e85 ftw...... wish florida had stations that offered it

im melborne there is a shell and bp that sells 100 unleaded from wat i here and 130 leaded

 

[cobalt123]

i dont know if there is a e85 around me i need to check

 

[sloancallaway]

well I would almost garrentee you would need to tune for it but it would be wicked

 

[sloancallaway]

so nobody has considered changing to e85 on here at all? Considering that all they are doing is changing fuel and tune and they are producing more power i dont see why more people havent thought about it. I would if it was readily available, or available at all here

 

[USMCFieldMP]

so nobody has considered changing to e85 on here at all? Considering that all they are doing is changing fuel and tune and they are producing more power i dont see why more people havent thought about it. I would if it was readily available, or available at all here

I have been wanting to do the switch since May. Conveniently, I haven't been around my car since then. When I get home, the switch will be made.

 

[sloancallaway]

I have been wanting to do the switch since May. Conveniently, I haven't been around my car since then. When I get home, the switch will be made.

what are you motor/mods are you making

 

[USMCFieldMP]

what are you motor/mods are you making

Wut?

Current mods are a 50trim Turbo w/ 60# inj.

When I get home, it'll be a 54 to 60trim DBB Turbo w/ 80# inj.

 

[sloancallaway]

thats bad ass man is your system going to support e85 though

 

[sfwg]

no hes gonna just put it in his gas tank and hope for the best then hes trying deisel made from fryer grease next...

 

[USMCFieldMP]

thats bad ass man is your system going to support e85 though

Yeah. From what I am aware of, there isn't much really needed to support e85. Obviously a tune. I'll more than likely have to swap my Fuel Pump for something else - probably the Bosch 044 (I think that's the model), and then I'm probably going to need bigger injectors. Unless I pick up a Hahn "Portfueler" Manifold, or what its called with the extra row of injectors.

 

[mrsilent13]

when more e85 stations come to play out here in cali...im thinking i will do the swap

 

[sloancallaway]

Wut?

Current mods are a 50trim Turbo w/ 60# inj.

When I get home, it'll be a 54 to 60trim DBB Turbo w/ 80# inj.

sorry about that last one retarded post I was on my blackberry and I wasnt paying attention and having a conversation with the fiance lol but ya I was just wondering what mods you are currently running and if you had forged internals. Anyways keep us posted with your results

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no hes gonna just put it in his gas tank and hope for the best then hes trying deisel made from fryer grease next...

how .net of you, I dont think it is an unreasonable question to ask if his system (ie fuel system) would support it because I didnt think the stock fuel pump would support more then 60lb injectors...

 

[USMCFieldMP]

Yeah... the stock fuel pump doesn't seem to support more than 350whp or so on a Supercharged car.

But Injectors seem to go further on a Turbo car for some reason, so I'd assume that the same might be true of the pump. Iono, we'll see. I was thinking about switching to a Return Style system... we'll see. Time will tell. More specifically, it all depends on how long I am in Iraq, and how much longer I stay on Active Duty... because that is a huge source of extra income for me. Once I'm done here... extra income goes bye-bye.

 

[Cobalt Tom]

i wonder how this would compare to high octane race gas

 

[USMCFieldMP]

i wonder how this would compare to high octane race gas

I've heard mixed reports. In some cases it has been able to dyno higher numbers... and in others not as high of numbers.

I think it just depends on the set-up and the tuner, I would assume.

 

[Cobalt Tom]

hmmmmm...

 

[cobalt123]

well i dont feel like driving to dallas to get fuel everytime so ill have to pass until more stations here locally have it